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Post by freebird on Jan 28, 2009 7:27:38 GMT -6
seaside Count on it girl. ;D
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ryanmcdonald
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Post by ryanmcdonald on Feb 2, 2009 17:41:01 GMT -6
the real motives always come out in the end.
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Post by amsmith170 on Feb 11, 2009 10:23:01 GMT -6
Ok, Now I'm irked. The City's disinformation propoganda is apparently being heard by more than the truth. I talked to a friend of mine who lives and works in Loris, and he told me that he heard that the rally was CANCELLED?! I had to explain that the only place the rally was cancelled was in the city limits, not in the County. Maybe the other jurisdictions (NMB, AB, Surfside, Carolina Forest, etc.) should put ads in the papers saying "Welcome Bikers! Spend your money here in stead of in the city!." Sorry for the ranting, but propoganda and disinformation are two things that really torque me off.
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Post by Pat on Feb 11, 2009 20:23:52 GMT -6
... propoganda and disinformation are two things that really torque me off. It is the first and last refuge of a scoundrel. Keep spreading the positive word!
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Post by captahab on Feb 25, 2009 14:32:42 GMT -6
<<<This will be a bit off topic from the specific subject of the ordinances, but I personally believe that random roadblocks and checkpoints themselves are unconstitutional. The police and other civil authorities are generally supposed to have reasonable cause (and in some cases a warrant issued by a judge) before they can search your home, your vehicle, or your person. Random roadblocks seem to me to violate this presumption of innocence that is at the heart of our legal system, and it reminds me of the old style Soviet practice of challenging people to show their papers. If there were a true presumption of innocence, there would be no cause to pull anyone over "at random". Suppose instead of riding a bike there were people walking past the roadblock on the sidewalk. Would you be okay with the police demanding they show their id and submit to a search? What's the difference?>>>
I totally agree that checkpoints are Illegal and UnConstitutional. The sheep have been conditioned to think that they are for there own safety. Kinda like boilin a frog. You gotta put the frog in cold water and gradually turn up the heat.
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Post by bikerbob on Feb 25, 2009 22:05:09 GMT -6
They don't want us. I'm not going there. Simple. Besides, our lawyer doesn't seem to know when he's lost. He tried twice and the court told him no twice. Yeah, the Freedom Ride will really make the court think we're geniuses on motorcycles. You know, if you can't win with brains, let's bully them. Not a smart move, if we ever hope to get back in front of that judge.
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Post by bikerbob on Feb 25, 2009 22:10:53 GMT -6
<<<This will be a bit off topic from the specific subject of the ordinances, but I personally believe that random roadblocks and checkpoints themselves are unconstitutional. The police and other civil authorities are generally supposed to have reasonable cause (and in some cases a warrant issued by a judge) before they can search your home, your vehicle, or your person. Random roadblocks seem to me to violate this presumption of innocence that is at the heart of our legal system, and it reminds me of the old style Soviet practice of challenging people to show their papers. If there were a true presumption of innocence, there would be no cause to pull anyone over "at random". Suppose instead of riding a bike there were people walking past the roadblock on the sidewalk. Would you be okay with the police demanding they show their id and submit to a search? What's the difference?>>> I totally agree that checkpoints are Illegal and UnConstitutional. The sheep have been conditioned to think that they are for there own safety. Kinda like boilin a frog. You gotta put the frog in cold water and gradually turn up the heat. Oh my god. Of course the checkpoints are legal. That's why they do them all over the country. You better be ready to pay those tickets. Geez, you people are giving bikers a bad name. Let's behave like we have some sense. Wear the frickin' helmet or stay outside the city. How hard can that be? The court said the city can do what it's doing. [glow=red,2,300][personal attack deleted by moderator][/glow]
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Post by captahab on Feb 26, 2009 20:14:11 GMT -6
Mr. Moderator I know I promised to behave on this here board. I will continue to do so if the pissants go away. If you check the IP address of this pissant, I'll bet I can tell you who it is.
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Post by amsmith170 on Feb 27, 2009 6:29:19 GMT -6
More propaganda from the People's Republic of Myrtle Beach!! Yet again I have heard from a friend of mine, this time someone from Fayetteville, NC, called me this morning and asked what I was doing with my vacation, "since Bike Week was canceled." I told him that only the City stopped supporting bike week, not the whole area, and that all of the events outside the City were still happening. I then e-mailed him some links for the promoters (Sonny Productions, Myrtle Beach H-D, etc.) and also referred him to the boards here. This is out of control!! Anybody know if there is a TRUE information campaign about this???
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Post by captahab on Feb 27, 2009 6:32:07 GMT -6
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Post by freebird on Feb 27, 2009 7:29:29 GMT -6
<<<This will be a bit off topic from the specific subject of the ordinances, but I personally believe that random roadblocks and checkpoints themselves are unconstitutional. The police and other civil authorities are generally supposed to have reasonable cause (and in some cases a warrant issued by a judge) before they can search your home, your vehicle, or your person. Random roadblocks seem to me to violate this presumption of innocence that is at the heart of our legal system, and it reminds me of the old style Soviet practice of challenging people to show their papers. If there were a true presumption of innocence, there would be no cause to pull anyone over "at random". Suppose instead of riding a bike there were people walking past the roadblock on the sidewalk. Would you be okay with the police demanding they show their id and submit to a search? What's the difference?>>> I totally agree that checkpoints are Illegal and UnConstitutional. The sheep have been conditioned to think that they are for there own safety. Kinda like boilin a frog. You gotta put the frog in cold water and gradually turn up the heat. Oh my god. Of course the checkpoints are legal. That's why they do them all over the country. You better be ready to pay those tickets. Geez, you people are giving bikers a bad name. Let's behave like we have some sense. Wear the frickin' helmet or stay outside the city. How hard can that be? The court said the city can do what it's doing. What idiot attorney can't see when he's licked? BikerBob Maybe you should educate yourself. These laws are now illegal in 14 States in this great Country because they absolutely are illegal and violate the presumption of innocence. It will of course take SC the normal 10 years to catch up to the rest of the world
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Post by Pat on Feb 27, 2009 8:03:49 GMT -6
Mr. Moderator I know I promised to behave on this here board. I will continue to do so if the pissants go away. If you check the IP address of this pissant, I'll bet I can tell you who it is. Howdy Cap'n. I'm on it. My apologies for not spotting it earlier. It's been a busy week. We will not allow this place to deteriorate into a sewer.
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Post by captahab on Feb 27, 2009 8:06:19 GMT -6
Thank you sir.
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Post by amsmith170 on Feb 27, 2009 9:29:51 GMT -6
Thanks for the link, Ahab. I have passed that along as well.
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Post by captahab on Mar 3, 2009 17:18:13 GMT -6
[ SS, howdy and welcome aboard. This will be a bit off topic from the specific subject of the ordinances, but I personally believe that random roadblocks and checkpoints themselves are unconstitutional. The police and other civil authorities are generally supposed to have reasonable cause (and in some cases a warrant issued by a judge) before they can search your home, your vehicle, or your person. Random roadblocks seem to me to violate this presumption of innocence that is at the heart of our legal system, and it reminds me of the old style Soviet practice of challenging people to show their papers. If there were a true presumption of innocence, there would be no cause to pull anyone over "at random". Suppose instead of riding a bike there were people walking past the roadblock on the sidewalk. Would you be okay with the police demanding they show their id and submit to a search? What's the difference? By creating the "noise ordinance", the city council has created a convenient excuse for reasonable cause ("It sounded noisy to me") and once they have you stopped, then they can go after you for any sort of infraction they can find. Suppose they started applying this noise ordinance in neighborhoods they did not like, and if they hear a loud stereo playing out the window use that to enter your home and search for anything illegal they might be able to find. Would you call that a legal search regardless of what they find? It amazes me how quick people are to roll over and surrender their rights in this country. A lot of blood has been shed for them over the last 230+ years, and if nothing else, we owe it to those who died to protect them not to treat them so casually. But, maybe that's just me. [/quot Hey everyone check this site out. www.roadblock.org/whattodo.htm
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